Conversations For Transformation: Essays Inspired By The Ideas Of Werner Erhard

Conversations For Transformation

Essays By Laurence Platt

Inspired By The Ideas Of Werner Erhard

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And They Get Transformed Too

Cowboy Cottage, East Napa, California, USA

February 22, 2025



I was with Werner when he led a seminar for a group of four hundred people. It was both rigorous and exacting, as are all Werner's presentations. All the conversations were in English (there were no interpreters). With interest, I kept my eye on one of the participants: a black-robed Japanese Zen Buddhist monk. I had learned earlier that he didn't speak English, so he couldn't understand the seminar nor its processes nor its sharing. Nonetheless he was in it, proving he had committed to being in its intensive inquiry. In the midst of it, I wondered from time to time what he or anyone else who didn't speak any English, would get from it. That said, I've been around Werner enough to know that more often than not, the extraordinary simply becomes de rigueur.

Finally when the seminar reached its inexorable conclusion, I watched him walk over to Werner who was surrounded by new, elated graduates. When the opportunity presented itself and Werner recognized him, he put his palms together, bowed to Werner, and said in a very thick guttural Japanese accent "I ... gaht  ... it!". Werner's recognition of him and his recognition of Werner left no doubt in my mind that he did gaht  it. Totally. Look: that is  extraordinary.

But that's exactly what happens with people, especially with non-graduates who are in a conversation for transformation with Werner. Any conversation for transformation's subject material is of a different order of things than that of an ordinary conversation. There's something else to get, something else at stake in this arena. Yet it's more than that actually. It's much  more. It's that they get there's something qualitatively different at play in a conversation for transformation than in any ordinary conversation, which even non-graduates (and even people who speak no English) get, and they get transformed too  anyway, in an incredulous "What just happened? What was that?"  kind of way. I say "incredulous" because just by being around it ie just by being within earshot of it, whether they're fluent in its language or not, they know something of another order of things has happened. It's "transformation by osmosis".

Listen: I've been around the block a few times on this one. This is not my first rodeo. I'm not just a guy in a diner  about this. I'm not about to fall into the trap of explaining  this. The trap is that explaining it (or at least attempting to) drives it into the realm of understanding  which renders it unrecognizable at worst or confused at best. Transformation simply doesn't occur in that realm. Rather, it's a being  thing (if you will). There's no explaining being. You just be it - in other words, you just be being. Explaining it simply obfuscates it. And it's not just that we're attracted to explaining things: it's we're addicted  to it. And being addicted and being at choice are mutually exclusive: you're either the one, or you're the other, but you can't be both at the same time. Really.

Back to that black-robed Japanese Zen Buddhist monk in Werner's seminar: without English, he couldn't possibly have understood any of it. And yet being immersed in it, being around it, he absolutely could  (and he did) get all of it. To be sure, the former alone would give it some of its validity (the intellectual analysis is useful up to a point). But it's the latter, it's its totally immersive experience, its willingness to "take what you get", its "don't try to figure this out" approach, from which it derives its awesome, great power. Listen: if you're skeptical, if you dismiss all of this as mere paeans to Werner, that's a great place to be. It'll ensure you question his work even closer. It'll ensure that whatever you do get, you'll have discovered it for yourself. That's the Socratic method.



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