Conversations For Transformation: Essays Inspired By The Ideas Of Werner Erhard

Conversations For Transformation

Essays By Laurence Platt

Inspired By The Ideas Of Werner Erhard

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This essay, Conversations For Transformation Podcast, is the companion piece to Laurence Platt Audio.

It was conceived at the same time as I am indebted to Geoffrey "Geoff" Fellows who contributed material for this conversation.




One of the most extraordinary things ever to come out of these Conversations For Transformation, began when my cellphone rang in California, its caller-ID displaying an unknown incoming number. I'd usually ignore such calls. Inexplicably, I answered this one. It was from a graduate in Thailand who had more than a passing familiarity with these essays. I asked him how he had come across them. He told me he'd heard them while listening to the radio during the morning commute in Bangkok. I don't recall the name of the radio station he said he'd heard them on, but if it wasn't as generic as "Radio Bangkok", that's pretty close. Every morning during the commute hour apparently, Radio Bangkok read one of my essays live on the air, then took calls from commuters on their way to work, who then shared what they got from them with the listening audience, likely in the many thousands if not in the hundreds of thousands.

Ranking second in extraordinariness to Radio Bangkok reading these essays live on the air during the morning commute in Thailand, is a podcast forwarded to me by a reader in New Zealand. A podcast is a digital audio or video file series distributed via the internet, typically available for download or streaming. It's a way to share content on a specific topic. The New Zealand podcast lays bare the way Conversations For Transformation work and what they offer, for which I am excited and grateful. Even more than that, because it lays bare the way Conversations For Transformation work and what they offer, it will also provide direct access to Werner's work. Anyone wondering "What is Werner's work?" (and "Is it worth participating in?") should be directed to this podcast.

One last thing: there's a subtle yet common error in the podcast for which I would like to make a correction. It's how it pronounces Werner's name. During the restructuring of his persona, he took the name "Werner" from the physicist Werner Heisenberg ("Erhard" came from chancellor Ludwig Erhard). Werner Heisenberg, being of germanic origin, would have pronounced his name with the hard "W" ie "Verner" (as would many people today, if not told otherwise). The restructured Werner Erhard however, preferred a soft "W", pronouncing his name "Werner" not "Verner" (the initial "W" is as in "wail" not as in "vail").

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We live in a world practically drowning in information right now, a world which is also (witness any current newspaper headlines or any prime-time TV news channels) lacking any clear-headed response to what we all know need not be happening, and yet are seemingly powerless to do anything about. We don't need more explaination about what's happening. We don't need more change. We've tried both, and we've ended up exactly where we are. Transformation doesn't come from knowing more, or better, or differently. Neither does it come from change. What is at stake in these Conversations For Transformation, is allowing transformation into our lives in ways that make a difference experientially, more than just imparting newer "Why?" and "How-to ..." understanding.



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