Conversations For Transformation: Essays Inspired By The Ideas Of Werner Erhard

Conversations For Transformation

Essays By Laurence Platt

Inspired By The Ideas Of Werner Erhard

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"How Long Have You Been Creating The World?"

Cowboy Cottage, East Napa, California, USA

November 30, 2024



"Power doesn't come from knowledge. What people know doesn't make them powerful. It's being present to what you're dealing with that gives you power."
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This essay, "How Long Have You Been Creating The World?", is the thirty second in an open group on People: I am indebted to Steve Zaffron who inspired this conversation.




I had seen him around the campus (so to speak) but I hadn't really seen  him around the campus - if you know what I mean. Then one day I did see  him. He was leading a meeting in a packed auditorium, standing at the podium in the front of the room when someone came in and announced there'd been a schedule conflict, and half the audience had to leave for fifteen minutes. As they stood up to walk out, noise filled the room to the point of distraction: the drone of chit-chat, briefcases' locks snapping shut, footsteps etc. None of it phased him. He continued speaking as if nothing had happened. Then suddenly he strode off the podium to the center of the auditorium, climbed onto a now empty chair, and continued his presentation louder in spite of the noise, while standing on that chair. He filled  the room with his voice and all the material in spite of the interruption which was now in full swing. He'd included  all of it.

It was the first time I had seen (or heard) anyone do that. He knew exactly what he was doing. Holding the space that way, he wasn't run by whatever was going on. He stayed in the center of the auditorium standing on that chair, speaking loudly in spite of the din so as to be heard by everyone including those leaving. When they began returning fifteen minutes later, he was still standing on that chair in the center of the auditorium, leading undeterred. And when they'd all returned, he went back to the podium without missing a beat. This was a complete, uninterrupted, seamless delivery. No one said a word about it. No one asked questions about it. I myself had never witnessed anyone capture and take command of the space like that by sheer presence alone before.

That was the first time I'd seen  him. But I was pretty sure he hadn't seen me  yet. That would come later. And when it did, I found myself once again in a busy, crowded room with him, a much, much smaller room this time than the erstwhile auditorium. Once again, he was leading a meeting. This time I knew who he was, given my experience of him in the auditorium. I kept my eyes on him, realizing the privilege it was to be around him. My job was to take drink orders / make coffee and tea for the participants in that meeting, in a small kitchenette located just off the main meeting room. I walked around as quietly as I could, whispering, asking people for their orders, then prepared all the drinks in the kitchenette and returned to serve what they had ordered. I could feel him watching everyone in the group intently from the front of the room as he led the meeting. Then abruptly, mid-sentence, he stopped and fell silent.

Everyone in the room registered the pause, wondering what he would say next. And then he said "How long ..." and paused again. Although I was serving, I was still following his agenda. So when he didn't continue, I stopped serving, and looked over at him. I was surprised to notice he was looking directly at me. Was he talking to me? Moi?  "Me?" I asked. "Yes, you. How long have you been creating the world?"  he asked ... at which point everyone in the room turned around to look at a startled me. I never did ask him what he meant by it, preferring to dwell in the delicious possibility of what he may  have meant. But I will say this: whatever he meant by it left me with an experience of being 1,000% totally gotten, of being fully seen. I just smiled at him and nodded.

Our paths crossed frequently on the campus after that, each occasion along the lines of "How are you?", "Nice to see you!", nothing more. Then one day an event I worked on included a buffet lunch for staff and workers. When my turn came to eat, I went to the dining area and filled a plate with delectables, looking for a place to sit. There were many empty place settings. I chose one and sat down, the only diner at that table, and began eating, barely noticing someone moving a chair to sit down at another empty setting at my table. I looked up. It was him. "How are you?" he asked. "Nice to see you!" I smiled.

A bit of background now. He was a high-ranking executive in the company he worked for. There had been a disagreement among upper-level management about how many hours the staff were expected to work. And although the number of hours was clearly stated (and agreed on) when new staff were hired, another high-ranking executive contested the hours as being excessive, in response to which he fired her - on the spot, in full view of the rest of the staff at a strategy meeting. It shook me. Why? Because I was a big fan of (if not a friend of) both of them, so what this boiled down to for me was a question of loyalty. There we were, sitting at an empty table in an empty dining area, not saying much, eating lunch. And I was the first one to speak. And what I said was this: "I want you to know I forgive you for firing (my friend).". He stared at me, put his knife and fork down on his plate, and suddenly burst into tears.

It was an astonishing display, totally unexpected. It took me but a few seconds to figure out what had just happened. This is what I surmised: the decision to fire her was actually the correct one, yet the roughness of it was regrettable. And being responsible, he was left to manage both. His unchecked reaction told me how anguished he was by the choice. I remained silent - and so did he, tears streaming down his cheeks. He offered no explanation - indeed, none was necessary. When lunch was over, we both stood up, bussed our cutlery and crockery, and left the dining area. It was an extraordinary display from an extraordinary man: enormously powerful, and yet at the same time, infinitely and compassionately human, not to mention vulnerable beyond all measure.

Together with another staff member who was a PhD at the company they worked for, he created and produced a series of conversations which were titled "Relationships: love, intimacy & freedom". They were brilliant, succinct, and extremely well laid out. They had the hallmark of any great conversation for transformation, which is this: just be  in the conversation ... and whatever the conversation is about (in this case, relationships) would clear up just in the process of life itself. Those conversations were available on CD which I listened when I was driving in my car. And at the end of each topic, I e-mailed him a brief note acknowledging him for the material, and where appropriate, offering my own terse comments and sharing, not expecting anything in response.

He didn't just respond. Oh no, he wrote volumes  in response. He didn't have to. "I'm glad you enjoyed the CDs" would have been enough. There was no agreement that he would give up his time in his response to me. But give up his time, he did. His responses were detailed, useful, inclusive, insightful, and were filled with so much more than brief "Thank you"s. In effect, I was the one to offer a brief acknowledgement of each chapter I listened, to which he responded with a full blown conversation. The sheer generosity of it was stunning. That, I realized, was the difference between us: I provide basic, terse acknowledgement - to which he responds with an entire thesis  of transformed relationship. I was (in effect) swimming on the surface; he, on the other hand, plumbed the depths. It profoundly affected how I listened and processed transformed material (written, recorded, or presented live) from then on.

On one of the last occasions I met him (or should I say on one of the last occasions I experienced  him), we had both traveled (independently) to Cancún Mexico to be with Werner, he to co-lead the Leadership Course with Werner, me to attend the course as a participant. I arrive early - for everything. And I had arrived early for one of the days of the course, looking for a place where I could wash my hands and straighten my clothes before claiming my seat in the course room. I found a men's room. Walking in, I noticed someone talking, standing in front of a large closet, straightening his jacket, in conversation.

I wasn't paying a lot of attention to it and I didn't recognize whom it was or whom he was talking with. So I went over to a sink and washed my hands, and the person continued talking: "You've come a long way", "Thank You for being here", and then "How are you?", "Nice to see you!", at which point I looked over. It was him, deep in conversation with (as it turned out) me. What the ...?  How did he know? How could  he have known? You know, I never asked him those questions. I just continued the conversation with him from the point I realized he had been talking with me all that time. Then we both went into the course room, he brilliantly rivetingly leading until Werner arrived, me in rapt attention, having let all my questions about him and the latest incident go.

It's long been noted that people who are most like Werner aren't like Werner. Yes that's a paradox. Yes it does sound like a contradiction in terms. And it's true: people who are most like Werner are people who are most like themselves. Even when co-leading with Werner (which requires enormous skill, hours of candidation and certification after literally years of practice), he was most like himself. So he never overshadowed Werner when he co-led with him, as he was often scheduled to do. Werner would deliver a tour de force  presentation which no one could match really, after which it was his turn to sum up - which he did, closing with "That's it ... from me.". He didn't try to be Werner. He didn't even try to be like  Werner. He was just being totally, fully, 1,000%ly himself. "That's it ... from me.". It's what made him indispensably Werner's friend, partner, and ally - which is what makes him our  friend, partner, and ally.

And speaking of Werner, Werner's intention could be stated as follows: that the work of transformation will (quote unquote) "disappear into the fabric of society". There are two particular areas of the fabric of society into which Werner intends his work will disappear: academia, and business. The worldwide acceptance of Werner's work in academia is now legend, as is the acceptance of Werner's work in business. And what he contributed to Werner's work in business was to establish a business consulting firm which Forbes magazine describes as among the world's best (Forbes magazine isn't just some guy in a diner  about business), in the process of which he also became a best-selling author. No small player him. He showed us how to walk the talk. He lived it.



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