Conversations For Transformation: Essays Inspired By The Ideas Of Werner Erhard

Conversations For Transformation

Essays By Laurence Platt

Inspired By The Ideas Of Werner Erhard

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No Significance

Cowboy Cottage, East Napa, California, USA

November 16, 2025



"Until what is significant is created by you, you aren't living your life: you are living some inherited life."
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This essay, No Significance, is the second in the open second group People (click here for the complete first group of thirty five People): It is also the seventh in a septology on Significance: I am indebted to Helen Gilhooly who inspired this conversation.



When I applied to live and work in these United States nearly fifty years ago, the rule for being granted a visa was quite simple: you had to have a valid job offer which could not be filled by any current American resident. Being that at the time I was a systems analyst for IBM  (International Business Machines) in the days before personal computers, cell phones, and the internet, I'd accumulated an impressive set of skills. The granting of a green card was a mere formality. I began writing some of the earliest interactive software in the country, work for which I was skilled, enjoyed doing, and was in much demand for.

After a few years when my original consignment of work was completed, the company I worked for moved in a new direction, and wanted me do different work than I was hired for. It was work I had no skills for, and did not enjoy doing. My view was that I was not hired to do that work. Their view was that it was the direction in which they were moving, and so I had to. I resigned. It was all very heavy. They asked me to do an exit interview - to which I agreed.

I was adversarial. Why? It was just how I was in situations like that. When I had to defend myself or explain myself, I was adversarial and righteous. I was always  righteous when confronted. It was what I had learned to be. The interview began, and I was a torrent of defensiveness, self-servingness, plus the aforementioned righteousness. When I had said what I wanted to say, the interviewer just looked at me. All she said was "Thank you. I got it!", and moved on the her next question. I was dumbfounded. She didn't argue with me, criticize me, correct me, resist me, or defend the company. She just ... got  ... it.

It was a new experience for me. My defensiveness won me no points. My righteousness got me no acclaim. My self-servingness garnered nothing of value. She just got  it. To her, there was no significance  in it at all. It was just my view of things. It took the adversarial righteousness completely out of my sails. So I tried again, with more righteousness and indignation again emphasized for effect. Same reaction: "I got it.". It held no significance for her, none at all.

I didn't realize it at the time, but that exit interview and the exit interviewer herself were pivotal lessons in my life. It was the first time I got  (there's that word again ...) one, how much I relied on making things significant in order to get my way ie in order to defend and justify myself; and two, how the costs of making things significant far outweigh the benefits (costs: staying small, closed, and immature; benefits: being right and justified). Not only was that my first real confront with how I used being significant as a means to manipulate, but it was also my first encounter with a person whom I couldn't manipulate by making things significant. That exit interviewer totally altered the course of my life, something for which I have never had the opportunity to thank her.

Later as a graduate of Werner's work, I completed this for myself. In my interaction with the exit interviewer I got clear I add significance to all situations in my life, and I resolved not to do it anymore. But it was only as a graduate of Werner's work that I got to see how human beings always add significance to all  situations in life. It's what we do. We're significance adding machines  and we'll always be significance adding machines. So the way I deal with added significance, is: as soon as I notice it, I distinguish I added it. Distinguishing I added significance, is my best shot at being free of all the significance I add.



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