Then you ask me a another
You ask me "Where is he?", pointing at my
Without hesitating, I answer "He's there", looking at him.
"Very good" you say.
Then you ask my friend the same
the same simple
You ask him "Where's
pointing at me. Without hesitating, my
answers "He's there", looking at me.
"Very good" you say.
Then after a pause, you say something which astounds me with its
profundity, which shocks me
You say "So the consensus of what you both say is: you're both
here ... AND ... you're both there, right?".
A silence like a
curtain suddenly descends and hangs thick in which I find myself
struggling to make meaning of his
Nobody is saying anything.
I get a
disconcerting feeling. It's as if the carpet's slowly sliding out from
under my feet. I gamely say (and it sounds lame even to myself)
for me here", pointing to my head (to my
Then you say to both of us "When you say thereshows up for you
here", pointing to your head (to your
actually), "I say that's not where thereshows up
for you. If you say thereshows up
for you here" you continue, pointing to your head (to your
actually), "I say that's a concept. I say
that's not where thereshows up
for you in your experience. What I want you to do is to
point to where thereshows up
for you in your experience.".
We both hesitate briefly. Then after a
points at me here, and I point at him there.
A-Ha! and Eureka! It seems for both of us,
show uphere, after all. For both of us, when we look at where
thereshows upas an experience and not as a concept, thereshows upthere.
In a flash, I've
that my here and my there are really the
same, and my
that his here and his there are really the
same. But it's more than that, actually. In the same flash, I've just
that my here and my
here are really the same, and my
his here and my here are really the same.
But it's still more than that, actually. In the same flash, both my
and I have just
that there doesn't
show uphere in our heads ie in our
Rather, we've both just gotten that thereshows upthere. Really!
It's gone silent again. The
curtain has descended again. My
and I aren't saying anything again. But this
neither of us are struggling. This time we're both profoundly